Homages made by the folks who own the design (vs folks who uhm don't own it)
A reissue is a new issue of an old watch model that was out of production per my definition. The reissue copies the look of the old watch near exactly and can have faux patina'ed tritium looking lume(Eg Basel 2014 Omega Seamaster) or it can be updated eg normal white lume(eg pre-Basel 2014 Omega Speedmaster Mark II) with just the slightest variations/updates in design.
raph's take on homages. Category:
1. Blatant copies - Wholesale ripping off a design of a more established brand/model and plastering their own brand on the dial or removing the brand(i.e. a sterile dial). stuff in this range isn't for me but i know many who justify it with the "well i'm not forking over a couple of thousand or tens of thousands for the genuine article but i do like it's looks, so i'll get this 'homage'. It's NOT a replica." uhm just changing/removing the brand on the dial and everything else stays the same... it kinda is. an easy measure is, how much creativity or innovation went into making it look the way it is? for these, its a big fat ZERO. some design changes due to manufacturing constraints don't count yuh :)
2. Middle of the road homages - Large % ripoffs of designs, slight tweaks to probably just slink past copyright issues (if the design rights haven't lapsed), to make even folks who know watches think it may be from that particular brand.
not talking about folks who don't care what's on your wrist(which are the majority of folks out there) but those who are enthusiasts/collectors who know somethin about watches beyond a handful of brands.
3. Smart homages - Influenced by single/multiple past designs(note: a LOT of watch designs have come before), slight inflections and design tweaks across them and differences significant enough to justify that they aren't direct or close copies and are therefore acceptable. [of course the definitions of the terms above range from person to person] a measure here is that some real ideas/innovation/creativity went into making them.
In terms of the line then, think Star Wars and the stolen code and Piett's reply to Vader "...it checks out. I was about to clear them." so the smart homages can be cleared and can go onto Endor but the icky ones, [category 1 above] kinda deserve to be blown up like the death star ;) "search your feelings... you know it to be true..."
crystal is also domed for some great distortion at different angles
Additional note: This particular vintage style fff dial came out in 2010 and it was very popular in forums in 2011, infecting one after another. It spawned the modern styled Fifty Five Fathom dials in 2011 as well which i will talk more about in time. When those first came out it was a group order thing on the watch forums but then they became more or less readily available after more stocks were ordered and most of the forummer's appetites for these dials were sated.
Now Blancpain has A LOT of fifty fathoms models(originally made for the French Navy a long time back), a great reference for the history of the blancpain 50 fathoms models can be found here LINK and for all the current range look at blancpain's site of course LINK
has been carried forward to a large degree to their modern range
Baron Munchausen to 3 ladies(Uma being one of em ;): You so remind me of Catherine the Great, empress of all the Russias, whose hand in marriage I once had the honor to decline."
Desmond: They all remind you?
Baron Munchausen: Yes, why not!? Bits here, bits there
there are similar versions of this dial out there which have the date window
people who are into the vintage range are likely afficionados, collectors, etc who would know of the seiko FFF and other homages, of which there are many. it's also easy to learn of them when you google about the 50 fathoms (and would probably know of more blatant copies of them) & know it's a seiko with a healthy dose of Blancpain 50 fathoms design mojo.
(2) in terms of stated water resistance on the seiko it's 100m or 54.68 fathoms
(1 fathom=1.8288m) and rounded up that's 55 fathoms baby ;)
so to someone who doesn't know timepieces, it may look like some variant of the 50 fathoms, but to someone who doesn't know timepieces, a MB&F may look like a $5k watch ;) for me personally, i'm proud it's a sub-US$150 seiko with a nicely designed US$35 dial and after a US$30 service and strap change... it looketh amazing
OR you could just put it down to cognitive dissonance and me justifying my purchase of this yuh :) whatever the case, determine for yourself where you draw the line and enjoy whatever you choose to buy.
modern range of the fifty fathoms and their tribute watch... and that's saying something
- Diameter: 41mm without crown and 43mm with
- Height: ~13-14mm
- Lug width: 22mm
- stainless steel case
- 7s36C auto movement - no manual winding which means you got to get the rotor going for it to power up(note: this is very easily done yuh) and non-hacking(seconds hand does not stop when you put it to time setting) auto movement
- hardlex crystal over the dial and bezel and case back
- 120 click uni-directional bezel
- for the J1 version vs the K1 version, there's made in Japan on the dial and on the rotor and Japan noted on the hardlex case back and on the movement (seen below pic)
- Note, this model comes in a number of different variants:
- SNZH60 - Black dial and black bezel with gold accents on a gold plated case
- SNZH55 - Black dial and bezel on steel
- SNZH53 - Blue dial and bezel on steel
- SNZH51 - White dial, black bezel on steel
- SNZH59 - Black dial and black bezel grey accents on black gun metal case
- no screw down crown so i don't suggest you go diving with this. swimming pools and the shower should be safe :)
- as noted above, non-manual winding(gotta shake the rotor to power it up) and non-hacking movement
- and that's it i think
how to put it altogether:
- get the watch - ebay or seiko authorised dealers. Made in Japan (J1) model should be in the S$180-200 range. the K1 model probably $10-30 less which kinda negates the need to get that instead of made(or assembled) in Japan goodness. You can check with K2(contact below) if he has it as he had one when i was there to do this dial swap
- get the dial - 2 versions of this dial type available, one from yobokies(with an 'automatic' word in red - you can google 'yobokies' to get to his photobucket account) and the one i prefer and bought which is from dagaz LINK US$35 shipped to u
- go to a watch servicer/repairer to swap the dial out - i personally recommend k2 watch co at tanjong katong complex. charge was S$25 and S$12 for the strap! Mr Goh is a friendly and knowledgeable chap who has been in this business for ages.
Recommended Seiko seller/servicer/modder ;)
- K2 Watch Company run by Mr Goh since 1982 (30+ years... It's a local horological institution ;) he sells seikos too and can deal in 2nd hand pieces
- Add: 845 Geylang Road, #03-K1 Tanjong Katong Complex, Singapore 400845
- Tel : 67460270
- Opening Hours: Weekdays and Satday 2-9pm, sun: 3-7pm, public hol: best to call to check if he'll be open
- the hands lume is stronger than the dial lume so under strong light sources(eg. the sun) it looks greener overall for a non-matching lume dial & hands set... both look the same white under normal lighting.
- good presence and gotta be careful not to knock it around coz of height and bezel size.
- overall a pleasure to wear... and uhm no one commented on it but that is cause i am typically surrounded by folks who generally don't care much about watches and what adorns a man's or woman's wrist :)