Tuesday, 19 August 2014

Serenity Now... In Hand Review of the Audemars Piguet 15202 ST Jumbo Extra Thin Self Winding Royal Oak [Part 1]

petite tapisserie dial with white gold applied hour-markers
For folks who watched Seinfeld u'll get the reference but i wouldn't want u to picture a flustered George saying the words, rather take them as they are... Serenity now :)

The AP 15202 [ 
Reference: 15202ST.OO.1240ST.01 ] is an exquisite timepiece to me. It transported me to the Vallee de Joux... A light morning mist and a still tranquil forest... N a goddess on a white stallion breaking the mists like lady Godiva telling me to follow her to watch nirvana...  Sorry scratch that last bit ;)


 Images of Vallée de Joux © copyright Dan Holdsworth for Audemars Piguet

the pics taken by me are of a brand new piece for sale so it has it's stickers on... not my watch sadly :(

Click these links for my posts on their 

  • 40th Anniversary event and exhibition in Singapore LINK and 
  • initial thoughts on the 15400 vs the 15202 LINK 
  • and some pix on another 40th anniversary piece LINK

The original Royal Oak the 5402 was designed by Gerald Genta in 1971 at the behest of George Golay, AP Managing Director at the time, to appeal to the then key Italian market, and launched in 1972 as a luxury steel sports watch that cost more than their gold watches at the time. It generated the right buzz and made people curious of it. 

It wasn't an immediate success at launch however but over time it grew in popularity and in a way, it hid them away from the onslaught of cheap Japanese quartz watches much like the famed tree in which Charles II of England hid to escape the Roundheads following the Battle of Worcester in 1651 from whence the name came. 

The name of that tree than borne on warships for Her Majesty's Royal Navy, the porthole's of which were said to inspire Genta's design in earlier marketing literature but it has since been made known that Genta was inspired instead by an octagonal fitting used by scuba divers, attaching the scuba helmet to the suit [Reference for this in Wei Koh's excellent article on his hunt and acquisition of a gold 5402 LINK and on AP site on Gerald Genta, a great watch designer].

The fact is that it was not only a groundbreaking piece because it was so expensive compared to a Submariner then (Sub at CHF280CHF vs Royal Oak weighing in at CHF3200 ~ equivalent to over US$10k now) but that it was an absolutely beautiful luxury timepiece and met its aim of being an unprecedented steel watch. A wonderful dial with the AP logo at 6 o'clock, great bracelet design and an octagonal bezel with hexagonal gold screws... there is good reason why this watch is an iconic, classic timepiece. 

The nickname Jumbo has stuck to the Royal Oaks with the slim 2121 AP calibre movement in this configuration as it was jumbo at the time compared to their usual lineup. Similarly so for the Patek Philippe Nautilus Jumbo, now the 5711. 

On this journey I've loved the Royal Oak Offshore loads in the past but that has passed and I'm at a stage now that this Royal Oak or The Royal Oak sings a powerful siren song to me... it feels amazing what this piece evoked in me when i took pictures of it. So many wonderful things coming together in its svelte profile that for a moment i forgot that i had a mortgage to pay and that i needed this watch...  

39mm stainless steel case with white gold hexagonal screws... this dial hews closely to the original Royal Oak dial done by Gerald Genta. the change to the dial for this and the original 5402 jumbo is the dial text font of Audemars Piguet and the black date wheel instead of white

& yes it'll look good 10, 20, 50 years from now... out of the darkness... 

Images of Vallée de Joux © copyright Dan Holdsworth for Audemars Piguet

into the light... 

Manual finishing of the bridges (polished bevels, satinbrushed edges, 

Perlage on the recesses) Manual finishing on both bridges and mainplate

Selfwinding Manufacture Calibre 2121 ~ Extra-thin movement with an oscillating weight on an annular ring running on four jewels. Bidirectional winding. 40 hour power reserve and running at 2,75 Hz frequency (19,800 beats per hour) 

alternate views...

Images of Vallée de Joux © copyright Dan Holdsworth for Audemars Piguet



the 21 carat gold rotor can be custom decorated upon customer's request

When you have time, watch this cool set of videos on the making of the Royal Oak LINK 

After all of this post is read and the videos watched, set aside some cash [list is high S$20s (S$28.8k) but selling should be low 20s] and head down to your (watch)pusher of choice that carries Audemars Piguet and get yourself a Royal Oak 15202 ;) kidding. i know i want to...  

a parting shot before Part 2... 

Saturday, 16 August 2014

Press Releases: Rolex Oyster Deepsea Seadweller With D-Blue Dial & Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Tourbillon Chronograph

I don't typically do press release stuff but these watches are of interest to me. the rolex is also probably the only one in the pricier luxury watch segment with a gradient dial in the way this d-blue dial has been done going from dark blue to black top to bottom. so what are my thoughts of the 2?

Rolex Deepsea Seadweller D-Blue - I prefer the original styled 16600 seadweller to the deep sea version so the 2014 basel release of a normal updated version of it, the 4000 Ref. 116600, was welcome. the Deep Sea Seadweller is an interesting larger beefier sized Rolex diver though and the dial on this gives it a significantly different look such that folks who own the original submariners/seadwellers might consider this as a possible option for an addition to their dive watch collection. that is if they like the dial of course. i am warming up to it somewhat but i think will only be able to decide if i do like it after i see it for myself in the metal and compare it with the 116600 as well as the new milgauss blue dial whenever they do pop up. will see.

AP Tourby Chrono - This is launching at watches and wonders, which is taking place on 30 Sep to 2 Oct at Hong Kong Convention and Exhibition Centre. Exhibiting Maisons: A. Lange & Söhne, Audemars Piguet, Baume & Mercier, Cartier, IWC, Jaeger-LeCoultre, Montblanc, Officine Panerai, Piaget, Richard Mille, Roger Dubuis, Vacheron Constantin, Van Cleef & Arpels. for more info LINK i am considering going by but just thinking about it for now... 

onto select press release info for these watches then. 


Rolex Celebrates Its Partnership with James Cameron’s Historic Dive by Launching a New Version of the Rolex Deepsea 

On the occasion of the release of National Geographic’s DEEPSEA CHALLENGE 3D film about the expedition to the deepest reaches of the ocean by explorer and film-maker James Cameron (Titanic, Avatar), Rolex has introduced a new version of its Rolex Deepsea. This ultimate divers’ watch, resistant to extreme pressure, isequipped with a “D-blue” dial representing the colours of the deep. The deep blue to pitch-black gradient dial is reminiscent of the ocean’s twilight zone where the last trickle of light from the surface disappears intothe abyss, echoing James Cameron’s DEEPSEA CHALLENGE expedition. A sa tribute to the partnership between Rolex and Cameron, the “DEEPSEA”marking on the new dial adopts the colour of the explorer’s green submersible as it is perceived underwater.

Exploring the last frontier 

On 26 March 2012, film-maker and explorer James Cameron made a record-breaking solo dive 10,908 metres (35,787 feet) below the surface of the Pacific Ocean piloting the DEEPSEA CHALLENGER submersible. He remained on the ocean floor for three hours to explore, take samples and capture the first-ever high-resolution images of this last frontier. Scientists estimate that 95 per cent of the oceans remain unexplored and hold hidden clues to life on Earth. The samples taken on the expedition have led to the identification of at least 68 new species. The documentary film follows the DEEPSEA CHALLENGE adventure from its very beginning to the last of its 13 Pacific dives. 


Rolex and the deep Rolex watches have a connection with both the Trieste and the DEEPSEA CHALLENGE expeditions. During both historic dives, an experimental Rolex watch attached to the hull of the submersible was exposed to the most colossal water pressure on the planet, some 11 kilometres (7 miles) below the surface. Both watches emerged working perfectly, illustrating the supremacy of Rolex in mastering water-proofness. Rolex played a pioneering role in the conquest of the deep with the creation, in 1926, of the Oyster, the world’s first waterproof wristwatch, then of professional divers’ watches: the Oyster Perpetual Submariner (1953), Sea-Dweller (1967) and Rolex Deepsea (2008).


The ultimate divers’ watch 

 The Rolex Deepsea, a new-generation divers’ watch, is waterproof to an extreme depth of 3,900 metres (12,800 feet). Its 44 mm Oyster case, reinforced with the patented Ringlock System, was designed to exceed the most exacting demands of professional divers. It defines new standards of robustness, precision, functionality and reliability. James Cameron was wearing a Rolex Deepsea during his expedition into the Mariana Trench. The model also served as the blueprint for the design of the experimental Rolex Deepsea Challenge, waterproof to a depth of 12,000 metres (39,370 feet) and tested in real-life conditions during Cameron’s dive, affixed to the robotic arm of his submersible. 


Pushing the limits 

With the new version of the Rolex Deepsea equipped with a gradient “D-blue” dial, Rolex is celebrating not only its partnership with James Cameron’s historic expedition, but also its commitment to exploration, innovation and the constant desire to push the limits of human endeavour.


Model: Rolex Oyster Perpetual Deepsea D-BLUE Dial 44 mm References: 116660
Case: Oyster (monobloc middle case, screw­ down case back and winding crown) ringlock system case architecture with nitrogen ­alloyed steel ring helium escape valve

Diameter: 44 mm materials: 904l steel, case back in grade 5 titanium
Winding crown: screw down, triplock triple water-proofness system
Crystal: domed, 5 mm­ thick scratch­ resistant synthetic sapphire
Bezel: unidirectional rotatable 60­minute graduated; cerachrom insert made of ceramic, numerals and graduations coated in platinum via pvd
Water-proofness: 3,900 m (12,800 ft)
Movement: calibre 3135, manufacture rolex mechanical movement, bidirectional self­winding via perpetual rotor precision: officially certified swiss chronometer (COSC)


Functions: centre hour, minute and seconds hands instantaneous date with rapid setting stop­ seconds for precise time setting
Oscillator: frequency: 28,800 beats /hour (4 hz) paramagnetic blue parachrom hairspring with breguet overcoil large balance wheel with variable inertia, high­precision regulating via gold microstella nuts
Power reserve: approximately 48 hours
Bracelet: oyster; folding oysterlock safety clasp with rolex glidelock system for fine adjustment of bracelet length, and fliplock extension link



Audemars Piguet Royal Oak Offshore Self-Winding Tourbillon Chronograph Limited Edition of 50 [Ref: 26550AU.OO.A002CA.01] Limited Edition of 50 List of $285.6k

It was in 1993 that Audemars Piguet established a whole new category of sports watch with the ground-breaking Royal Oak Offshore. A natural evolution of the original, octagonal Royal Oak which took the watch world by storm in 1972, the supersized 'Offshore' was large, bold, rugged and highly functional.


The thinking behind the design of its 42mm diameter case was to create a luxury sports watch which was virtually indestructible. A soft iron inner cage made it ultra-resistant to magnetism; a rubber coated crown and pushpieces combined with a visible gasket beneath the screwed-down bezel made the watch exceptionally waterproof - and the sheer volume of metal in the case provided the selfwinding movement with an unparalleled degree of protection. It was not long before the Royal Oak Offshore attracted a cult following among horological aficionados, leading to its current status as one of the all-time greats of modern watch making which has been interpreted in numerous different configurations yet which has always retained its essential, original character. 

One of the most dramatic and unexpected of those interpretations appeared in 2010 in the form of the first Royal Oak Offshore Tourbillon Chronograph featuring a hand-wound movement and a case incorporating forged carbon and ceramic. Now, four years later, Audemars Piguet is proud to present an entirely new Royal Oak Offshore Tourbillon Chronograph driven by the very latest, selfwinding Calibre 2897 which has been especially developed to power it. As mighty as the watch itself, the Calibre 2897 mechanism comprises 335 parts and can be seen in all its glory through a sapphire crystal caseback. A true, micro mechanical work of art, the movement is rich in components which have been bevelled, polished, chamfered and decorated entirely by hand to create a shimmering play of light and shade.


From an engineering perspective, too, the Calibre 2897 stands out: the automatic winding system is driven by a peripheral oscillating weight made from satin-brushed, 950 platinum. The calibre can be seen through a special aperture at the one o’clock position as well as through the oscillating weight visible from the dial side. Exceptional accuracy is ensured, meanwhile, through both the tourbillon mechanism and the use of the column wheel system, which is widely regarded as being the most reliable and precise of all chronograph configurations. To protect this sublimely beautiful powerhouse, Audemars Piguet's designers have created a very special version of the Royal Oak Offshore case based on modern, black coloured materials: forged carbon for the middle,ceramic for the bezel, titanium and ceramic for the push pieces and rubber for the strap. The Royal Oak Offshore Selfwinding Tourbillon Chronograph: an exceptional blend of traditional watch making savoir faire and high tech thinking.

The Calibre 2897 movement was created entirely in-house by Audemars Piguet using the very latest in horological technology combined with the classic watch making skills for which the company has been renowned since its founding almost 140 years ago. Everything from the rounded cut of the bridges to the S-shaped coupling yoke (traditional to the watch making of the Vallée de Joux), the curves of the minute-counter bridge and the characteristic toothing of the column wheel display a mechanical artistry that almost belies the fact that the finished article is a precision mechanism capable of slicing time in to fragments of a second. 

Audemars Piguet is one of the few remaining high-end watch makers to still use such a high level of decoration, which includes classic finishes such as mirror polishing, hand chamfering, circular graining and hand-drawing. All of these are executed manually in a series of meticulous operations that account for as much as 30 per cent of the value of the finished timepiece. The process takes many hundreds of hours before the master watch maker can perform an initial trial assembly in order to give first life to the newly created Calibre 2897 movement - after which everything is dismantled, meticulously cleaned and made ready for final assembly before being mounted in the 44mm Royal Oak Offshore case.


Sunday, 10 August 2014

Are You Being Served?

i, and i suspect many, have had stories of unhappy watch service centre experiences and that is separate from any sticker shock [a good example of this here LINK] at learning what u have to dish out to get the watch back to a good functioning statethe cost of servicing and the quality of the service do play a part in the overall joy of owning or even of keeping a piece so for now, let's look at some true tales of service centre woes...

raphmeister learning to fix his own watches so as to save on servicing costs :) 

1. they fix your watch but...
  • scratch up something in the process - uhm what's that fresh scratch on that dial/bridge/case/lug about? that wasn't there before. here the person handing you back your piece will try to use a jedi mind trick to convince u 'the scratch was always there' if u bring it to their attention
  • screw up some other mechanical aspect in your movement eg. yup it keeps time again but the chrono doesn't reset to zero
  • it works for awhile and then the same fault surfaces shortly after
    2. we can fix your watch... at our factory in Switzerland/Germany etc
    • cost goes up and it can get pretty steep
    • not having the expertise here means any post servicing issue or future service of that watch model will require trips back to the factory from whichever country it came from
    this used to be serviceable in Hong Kong, not sure about now... 

    3. we can do what you asked us to do but... 
    • oh you want us to polish your watch? yup we can do that for $X00 but you have to service it too for $Y,Zoo. don't want to service your movement, we can't polish your watch then. i for one don't see the link between watch movement servicing and case polishing... 
    hopefully things do get better with servicing at the established brands service
    centres which many people still have to turn to... including myself of course :) 

    some other considerations

    A. ability for other folks to service other than the original manufacture
    • while i love independent watches the inability of any watch servicer to open it up and fix it to get it right presents a problem. it almost always have to take a trip back to the manufacture that made it as they don't have a vast servicing network and also faces the possibility of one day not having someone being present that is able to service it without charging a whole lotta $$. which could also mean that the wonderful 50 or 100k or 500k watch could be a very expensive paperweight one day. as for a grand comp from Patek, you'd probably be feeling very safe. 
    not serviceable by just anyone... 

    this one too... UN also being recently purchased by Kering... 
    • doesn't mean we should all be buying ETA watches but it does mean it would be good to find reliable and fair alternative servicers for the watches we own. example 1: former Rolex service centre technicians/servicers leave and set up their own shops and may provide a similar service for 1/3 or 1/5 the current cost. example 2: get access to servicers that can service old watch movements 
    alternatives to RSC are available... 

    a positive for Patek is that they will service watches they make from years back hence the whole 'looking after it for the next generation' does work coz someone will be there to service it unless the brand dissapears eg. apocalypse happens. different brands will have different thresholds as to how long they will service(or keep parts for) watches past a certain age

    B. nearest service centre is tooooo far away

    this may not be so much of a problem in Singapore but folks who don't live in countries with a lot of buyers of certain watches/models, there may not be official or reliable service options available nearby. costs go up with shipping and handling etc.

    C. how much did you say it was? 

    in the past i believe service centres were really setup to more or less break even. looked to just provide enough on the ground in a country to service a majority of the type of watches in that market and look to cater for a reasonable price for that service. 

    increasingly i think service centres have gotten a bit more fat on and that is padded into their service price. so instead of paying for the skilled watch technicians time, parts and machine use, you are paying for... more. the more of course depends on the company in question and it could be used for something that gives back to folks using the service centre or not at all.   

    I remember once i could service a watch at an authorised service centre for less than 10% of the purchase price from an authorised dealer. Now I have heard of $4k watches with $1+k servicing or a third or more of the price someone paid to own the watch. egads!

    D. a pleasant experience

    yup we know we are not back to buy another watch but being provided a pleasant experience, a smiling face at the counter and a helpful tone, some feigned interest in helping you resolve your watch crises(vs the 'what silly question are you about to ask me' gaze or a chortle with co-workers about the seemingly legitimate request you just made 'he wants to keep the original hands and dial... kekekeke')... is that really too much to ask for? 

    do note the intense focus as i service this lady customer's timepiece

    E. how often should you service your timepiece? 

    Some companies advice 3 year intervals before servicing but for me personally, 3 years is pretty short servicing interval for a current mechanical watch. for folks who rotate through a number of watches they will also likely have a longer service interval going for em. my view(which may be wrong and may not work for you but does for me) is that unless it's not working right or not keeping good time(as in losing minutes daily yuh), don't send it in. who lives by the seconds anyway? ;)

    i recently serviced this baby outside of the Swatch service centres but only
     after it was losing a fair bit of time and the cost was very reasonable

    to conclude... 

    so this is just my point of view as all my posts are. i think addressing some of the shortfalls above would go towards making the servicing experience and the overall ownership experience that much better and add to brand loyalty (vs brand aversion). maybe key to all of this is just consistent, reliable and good quality servicing of the timepieces.

    it is such an important part of the customer experience of ownership of a luxury watch that what brands and their service/retail partners should be striving for is for people to share about great service testimonials vs tales of woe ;)

    hard at work at perfecting my skillz before my next watch has to go in for servicing

    Friday, 27 June 2014

    The Seiko 6105 8110 / 8119 Diver, Thoughts on Vintage & An Owner's Field Report & Review

    there is a purity to vintage watches or watches that have been out of production for a certain amount of time. there is no marketing bs hype, there is no current advertising, articles written by paid voices(magazines or websites) to sell or promote these timepieces coz no one is getting them to do so. so it steps out of the 3 ring circus and lives a life of its own, where watch enthusiasts determine what the value of a watch should be. 

    for the piece i am writing about, there are no auction house shenanigans too to muddy things up. list price and discounts from authorised retailers are a thing of many moons back and the value of the item is what prospective buyers believe it to be. factors like scarcity of what you are looking for(what condition it's in) at the right price point, not being able to just pop into a shop to pick it up, and market demand and supply at a given point in time drive the pricing of it.

    The Seiko 6105 - 8110 / 8119 Diver


    Seiko's first ever dive watch was the 6217 or 62MAS produced from 1965 to 1968. It's second generation diver is the 6105 that you'll be hearing and seeing more of in this post. 3rd generation down this line would be the 6306 and 6309s(blog post on this piece here LINK). 

    The 6105 came in 2 case types the 8000 / 8009 in a more conventional symmetrical cushion case and then came the sexy, asymmetric beauty, the 6105 8110. 


    Looks & How It Wears
    • Is symmetry overrated? Gorgeous asymmetrical cushion case watch.
    • 44mm without the crown and 13mm thickness. 48mm lug to lug. if measured from the crown to the other side of the case, it's 48.5mm. it has great wrist presence and sits very comfortably on my 7" wrists. 
    • Crown at the 4 o'clock part protected by a curvaceous protrusion... beautiful  asymmetry 
    • Applied Seiko logo on the dial, date window at 3 o'clock with a nice metallic frame

    What to look out for when buying it
    • Buy them with original parts, especially the dial and hands which are difficult to find in a decent enough condition. the bezel and crystal can be aftermarket parts which aren't a problem but the dial and hands, u gotta do original. after u've owned it for a bit and if it falls apart, then the hands may have to change but till then keep the original parts together as much as possible. 
    • i have seen some asking or selling with relatively high prices with new dials and hands which shouldn't be the case. don't be a sucker and don't pay top dollar for these.
    • Prices for ones with good/reasonable ORIGINAL dials and hands with a decent enough condition movement, case(a little corrosion can be acceptable) will likely continue to maintain or rise [barring any major economic shakeups that is] 


    Specs and Notable Notes: 
    • Manufactured from 1968 to 1977
    • 6105-8110 / 6108-8119 are the same watch just that the 8119 was sold in a different market eg the US 
    • Assymetrical stainless steel case size 44 * 48 * 13
    • lumibrite luminous hands and hour markers with metal surrounds
    • 150m waterproof diver
    • Time and date with quick set date and instant date change
    • 6105b movement reference. 17jewels  21,600bph(3Hz) with hacking(seconds hand stops when crown is pulled to time setting). no manual winding and it is a very robust movement. (mine keeps great time)
    • During the run there were 2 dial types, one had waterproof the next had water resistance on the dials and case backs
    • External coin edge bi-directional elapsed time rotating bezel. click ball with 60 clicks for a full turn
    • Crown has a push and turn to 'lock' mechanism instead of screw down - on my one, this isn't that tight and doesn't instill too much confidence on water resistance. I will not be subjecting this to much water
    • 'Hardlex' mar-resist crystal
    • Lug width 19mm (?!) why 19mm why? excuse the lament, but it's not a huge deal as most 20mm watch straps can be squeezed in on there. it originally came on a really great looking waffle 'pressure vented' strap which suits it oh so well



    I got round to another 'back of my mind to do' as well with this watch and that is buying a watch from my birth year... i honestly wasn't hunting or lookin for it but it kinda was there and it was a no brainer... 

    1975 was a good year ;) 

    The rocky horror show opens on broadway (it's just a step to the left ;) and the picture show opens in cinemas later in the year... susan sarandon as Janet wet from the rain... an american space shuttle and a russian space shuttle linkup in space for the first time, the apollo soyuz test/soyuz 19 mission. Muhammad Ali defeats Joe Frazier in the Thrilla in Manilla(i loved the rumble in the jungle fight and the documentary of it 'when we were kings' but i am sure this was a memorable bout too) & Microsoft was founded. 

    The Vietnam war ended with the fall of Saigon in April 1975. some folks aren't aware of it but that war started in '55, and US soldiers were on the ground from 1965 and were there, in a foreign land for 10 years. One of the landmark films about the Vietnam war is Apocalypse Now, directed by Francis Ford Coppola and having some great actors of our time in it such as Marlon Brando and Martin Sheen. A watch that was sold to soldiers at the time in the PX was on Captain Willard's wrist.

    Of Note (please play Purple Haze while reading the next bit ;) 
    • There weren't many watches issued to soldiers for the Vietnam war. Some USAF got issued milspec watches which weren't all too great, but in terms of GIs gettin them, we're talking very small numbers
    • Most of the 'war' watches then were civilian purchases brought from home to Vietnam. Post Exchanges(PXs), sold watches too of course. PXs were kinda like department stores on the grounds and there were big ones and small ones of course with different goods/watch selections available. Zippo lighters were very popular at the PX back then. Other thant the PX, there were Base Exchanges(BX), Navy Exchanges(NEX) and Marine Corps Exchange(MCX) that carried watches at a low cost.


    • On the watch front, these exchanges also had Benrus, Hamiltons, Elgins, Wylers and of course some wonderful Japanese timepieces... Seiko! oh and some more well off folks wore their Rolexs down too and some Rolex models were also sold at the PXs, so they did grace the wrists of the troops there during the Vietnam war. 
    • A 6105 back then would cost about $75-95 or about 1-2 months of a regular soldiers salary. cheap seikos were there too for $20+.


    In Francis Ford Coppola's Apocalypse Now 
    • Contributing to the popularity of the piece was Martin Sheen wearing it as Captain Willard. i believe some folks nicknamed it the 'Captain Willard' because of this but not sure if that stuck. i'll just call it the Seiko 6105 8110 :)
    • Marlon Brando's character Col Kurtz wore a bezel-less Rolex GMT. 



    "Charlie don't SURF!" but if they were to surf they would be well served with one of these Seiko's on their wrist ;)

    • Great presence on the wrist and sits well coz of the case shape
    • it looketh incredible
    • it keeps great time and is a robust movement 
    • Lock mechanism may not be the best from a water proofing standpoint
    Things to Look Out for
    • Condition condition condition
    • 2 things i had to change on this watch. A bezel with patinaed lume pip sold by Yobokies as the lume pip on the one i got had gone awol and a waffle strap 19mm from wjean to get it to look how it was meant to ;)
    • the hands aren't in the greatest shape but will hold onto them for now. at some point i may change them to new aftermarket hands
    looks good on nato too of course ;)


    how does it hold up under real mission conditions? 
      "Insertion of 2 special forces operatives into a kingdom ruled by a mouse"
    I had that icy cold feeling when I was briefed on it, that cold grip in the pit of my stomach tellin me to just cut n run. But I hv been trained for this...  The 2 agents were trained by one of the best in the service heck I would say the finest agent in a long time... but time was running out. The mouse king had become aware of our presence and had used strong sorcery to turn the operatives against me... 
    kidding aside, HK Disneyland was overall a fun time with the family :) we love Disneyland!

    After 6 days on my wrist, never once needing to reset it once, the time was still accurate to the minute. A robust and excellent movement

    glowing in the winnie the pooh ride... uv does the trick

    hope you enjoyed the post on this iconic Seiko diver and all the best in the hunt... i mean assuming you are getting one that is ;) cheers, raph

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